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Ben Discoe

Richard,

There's a few ways to look at these rising costs. The first is, it's just inflation. The dollar is rapidly losing value against anything you can compare it to (gold, oil, euros..). If that's true, then real costs are actually not going up much, it's just more dollars because dollars are worth less. Then the only real mystery is why the CPI used to estimate inflation hasn't gone up proportionally.

Another way to look at it is, rising oil prices are pointing out all the ways we need to change our oil-dependent ways. Each of the problems you usefully identified has a low-oil solution. There are agricultural alternatives to chemical urea and roundup, as you know well, they just cost more (so far). O'Keefe's could bake their bread without oil-based electricity - there are many other ways to do it on our resource-rich island. Plastic plates have obvious alternatives. And as for keeping the fertilizers from leaching away in 140"/year of rain, UH Manoa actually invented a brilliant solution (flash carbonization of biomass to increase adsorption). Hopefully a biocarbon plant will be coming to our island very soon.

So - either it's just inflation, in case we just have to adjust our mental picture to larger numbers on every pricetag - or it's economics urging us to quit our oil-dependent ways, which as you have wisely pointed out, we should be doing anyway (the frog in the pot...)

-Ben

James Weatherford

Oil price is increasing faster than CPI, which is most often reported (in fine print) as "excluding energy" because energy price is already in everything else and the reckoning is that to include it in CPI would double count.

Inflation in 2008 is double-barreled:
'cost push' in terms of the price of energy going up.
'demand pull' in terms of the China boom (bubble?) sucking resources from across the globe.
Having both 'cost push' and 'demand pull' simultaneously is tough, much like 1970's.

richard

James and Ben;

And this time, we may not be saved by a giant oil field discovery. Dr Makena Coffman from the UH Economic Research Organization did a modeling entitled Oil Shocks and Hawaii's Economy, Jan 2007. It concluded that Hawaii had the ability to absorb oil shocks up to a 30% increase in oil costs. That would have occured at $80 per barrel. We are now at $110.

I found this interesting. http://www.financialsense.com/Market/cpuplava/2007/1003.html.
In the 70's the country went into recession due to oil shock. Real price of oil was around $102 per barrel. How come we have not gone into recession yet? This article say's that we are now a more service oriented economy using less oil per dollar of GDP. But, this will occur somewhere toward $160 per barrel--four years of $15.00 hikes. Less?

If supply of oil cannot keep up with demand causing continuous rise in prices, Could it mean permanent recession/depression at some point around $162 per barrel?

The key is to change our behavior. Can we do this and still retain a good lifestyle? Will we have order?

Scary thing to contemplate.
Thanks for your comment, James.

Richard

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